500px.com is about to open their new marketplace…..hmmmm
500px.com is about to open their new marketplace…..hmmmm
I am sure I know the answer to this portion of their promo email, but I really need some clarifications:
Introducing Market
We are about to launch Market: the best place to sell your prints and digital downloads.
With the 500px Market, anyone can buy prints or digital downloads of your photos. Get your photos in front of millions of people, and start earning more.
What you need to get started
To best prepare for Market, and be the first to put your photos in front of millions of visitors, prepare your digital files to the following requirements:
• At least 3600px by the longest edge
• No watermarks or borders
• JPG format
• Have proper releases
Market will be open shortly, so get ready and be there!
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M suggestion to avoid confusion about Watermarks etc is to explain why…. because I have spent a ton of time already doing all this prep and uploading photos to 500px.com – I really do not want to have to do it all again with only 3 sentences of information and none of them explain why….
I have already been through one market experience on 500px – Can we all get some clarification on the why we should redo our potentially large archive of uploaded content before asking us all to redo it for yet another market experience we have no real details about…
Hate to sound like a jerk – but I was looking forward to this potentially being my place to sell images…. we need more info and a bit less vagueness, or at least I do before I redo my entire library…
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I had the same question. Would we be able to upload a non watermarked version to accompany an existing posted image or did we have to start all over.
+Brent Burzycki I'd be interested in this info as well. Tagging +Andrey Tochilin might be helpful, for when he has time.
All i know is this is a massive issue for me related to time devotion to selling my images… This would be the 3 or 4th time I have redone images for a new sales tool with no real history.. I am just a bit more gun shy now..without details..
I assume we will get them but I am not sure why I want my non watermarked images at hi-res anywhere without those details.
We also need to breach the subject of nude and erotic images. As 500px is full of them I am sure there is an answer for this also but we need to clarify if printing services will include these types of images. As there is all kinds of interesting issues related to that..
+Doug Brewer Hi guys, I'm not with 500px anymore, so I cannot speak from the company's point of view. However I can say that Yes, they do need high resolution files with unwatermakred images to print from. Your potential buyers expect a superb quality of all prints.
+Andrey Tochilin hey, didn't know you left the company. Hope it was amicable.
I understand the high rez/uncluttered need, but I'm curious about what protections are/will be built in to the system to prevent loss. I got into 500px with the hope that eventually I'd be able to offer prints through the site, thus streamlining my efforts a bit more. If the details regarding protection and production are satisfactory, I will expend more energy toward that end and encourage others to as well.
Yes, all OK. The high res images are not even part of the website. Web visitors will see only low res (watermarked) images.
So who else can we tag to possibly get some clarifications? I know a few people are here from 500px but I am totally blanking on their names..
maybe +500px?
You can ask +Evgeny Tchebotarev as well as contact 500px at twitter.com/500px
+Doug Brewer Hi res photos for Market are secure and stored separately. They'll be only used for prints (when ordered) and HD downloads (when bought as well). No one outside can have an access to them.
+Evgeny Tchebotarev When is the roll out? – Are you beta testing it?
+Evgeny Tchebotarev So we have to upload the files twice, once to the site and again to the market servers? Can we set that up through our LR plug-ins?
I know you're chasing server errors right now, but when you get a chance…
Well call me totally confused by the new store.. I have access to it – some images are on the site selling for incredible pricing, I cannot set pricing?
I guess we will just wait and see what comes of the new market…..
Clearly you do not need to re-upload images as right in the interface you can check images you want to sell…
Call me confused…..
I was looking at the return from the pricing marks and it looks like the photographers will get $2 of the $3 web download and $200-$250 from the $500 canvas printing.
500px will be making a fortune on this even after the printing, packaging and shipping is all said and done.
Not sure what to think about this set-up… a good or a bad deal :/
+Art Silva All i know is as of this moment I have not seen anything that makes me want to use the service… not that is matters much as no one will buy a 500 dollar canvas print of my images….No way to set pricing? Downloads with unknown usage rights?
I am still very confused..
Market Fee Schedule
Each canvas print that is sold in the Market carries the price of $500 USD per print. The
price may change at any time without notice as part of the promotion, special discount
codes etc.
The photographer gets 70% of the sale price minus the cost of printing, packaging and
shipping (“net all costs”).
The cost of printing, packaging and shipping usually ranges between $130 to $200
USD, and depends on size, shipping location and other factors.
On average, photographer can expect a payout between $200-250 USD per canvas
print. The number can be lower during promotions, but higher in total sales.
On digital downloads, the photographer will get $2.00 USD per digital download for
personal use, sold for $2.99/each. If the price changes during the promotion, the
photographer will get 70% of the selling price.
I also see we cannot turn off or opt out of downloads and only keep printing…
I agree, there is alot of details and features left out. I'm concerned about the usage rights and licensing from either Photographers or 500px.
I think they may be jumping the gun a little here without thinking this through… oh yes and the set pricing thing to, I dont get it.
Sometimes better to slow and roll out well then to just put it out….of all sites thou you would think they would know rights and options are what most photographers want
+Brent Burzycki we are doing a slow rollout. And I truly believe that we still (of all sites, as you mentioned) know what photographers and buyers want. Definitely they don't want to buy a tiny 280px 'photo' for $30 on stock sites. That's the model of the past, and it's totally ridiculous.
+Evgeny Tchebotarev I am not sure I of all people know what is right… I only have one issue with a slow rollout.. at least for me.. I log into my account and I see pre-checked images set for sale because of image size.. so as I see that upon enabling the store for my images they are ready to sell without me having to check the boxes… thus before I really know my butt from a hole in the ground in the new interface someone could be downloading images for a few bucks a piece and I have no idea the usage rights for the downloads..
Sadly that is sort of common across the board….
I would love to use 500px to direct my customers too to get images – but I know they are not going to want canvas priced images..
So I guess I am much more curious as to what the final product could be… and when that might happen – that way I know when to turn on the store – read the rules and use the service…